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	<title>Comments on: The Bad Beers of Britain</title>
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		<title>By: Admin</title>
		<link>http://www.interwined.com/2008/05/01/the-bad-beers-of-britain/#comment-4360</link>
		<author>Admin</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 14:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>While a part of me wholly agrees with you, another part simply cannot and will not.

For one, I agree with you that the Americans are getting more sophisticated in their beer selection.  No doubt, they too are tired of drinking bottles of Bud.

I also agree that the big distributors like Bass pretty much dominate the market and dictate the stock.

This is where I disagree: if you look around, you will find that there are a number of bars and pubs in London that serve an excellent selection of beers, from the Belgium greats to the international boutique micro brews.

Remind me to take you to one... Until then, I'll enjoy a bottle of Scotland's Innis &#38; Gunn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While a part of me wholly agrees with you, another part simply cannot and will not.</p>
<p>For one, I agree with you that the Americans are getting more sophisticated in their beer selection.  No doubt, they too are tired of drinking bottles of Bud.</p>
<p>I also agree that the big distributors like Bass pretty much dominate the market and dictate the stock.</p>
<p>This is where I disagree: if you look around, you will find that there are a number of bars and pubs in London that serve an excellent selection of beers, from the Belgium greats to the international boutique micro brews.</p>
<p>Remind me to take you to one&#8230; Until then, I&#8217;ll enjoy a bottle of Scotland&#8217;s Innis &amp; Gunn.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://www.interwined.com/2008/05/01/the-bad-beers-of-britain/#comment-4361</link>
		<author>Jacob</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 14:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The number of bars with decent beer selections are few and far between when compared to the multitudes of others serving 'daft draft'...

The places you speak of, are they mainly chains, like 'Belgo,' or primarily independents?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The number of bars with decent beer selections are few and far between when compared to the multitudes of others serving &#8216;daft draft&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>The places you speak of, are they mainly chains, like &#8216;Belgo,&#8217; or primarily independents?</p>
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		<title>By: thirstforwine</title>
		<link>http://www.interwined.com/2008/05/01/the-bad-beers-of-britain/#comment-4362</link>
		<author>thirstforwine</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 17:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>of course, you only mention the lagers - you should be out seeking the real ale pubs.

I'm not a big consumer of them mself, but they are the "differentiator" that pubs ought to be looking for

the reason they cannot do it is that staff training is so awful, because retention is so bad, because pay is low and loyalty doesn't exist ... except for a few locations.

the US has, possibly counter-intuitively, more independent outlets (whether by state or locally), whilst the UK is totally dominated by chains hell bent on profit maximisation

but if you can find a place selling real ale (check out the CAMRA approved sites) you'll get much greater variation and authenticity</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of course, you only mention the lagers - you should be out seeking the real ale pubs.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a big consumer of them mself, but they are the &#8220;differentiator&#8221; that pubs ought to be looking for</p>
<p>the reason they cannot do it is that staff training is so awful, because retention is so bad, because pay is low and loyalty doesn&#8217;t exist &#8230; except for a few locations.</p>
<p>the US has, possibly counter-intuitively, more independent outlets (whether by state or locally), whilst the UK is totally dominated by chains hell bent on profit maximisation</p>
<p>but if you can find a place selling real ale (check out the CAMRA approved sites) you&#8217;ll get much greater variation and authenticity</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.interwined.com/2008/05/01/the-bad-beers-of-britain/#comment-4363</link>
		<author>Alex</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 18:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I can't speak for London but Leeds at least has many excellent pubs serving excellent beers in excellent nick.  North won The Observer Food Monthly's Best Place to Drink award a couple of years back and has a fantastic range of world beers in the bottle, European beers on draft, and always three local ales on hand pull.  Other luminaries of the drinking scene are Mr Foley's, the Palace and the Victoria.  Granted, a lot of these pubs also serve Carling/Fosters/whatever - but they also make sure that the 'real' stuff is looked after.

My personal favourite (at the moment!) - Arcadia, in Headingley.  No crap beer  at all and both German beers and real ales on draft, world beers in bottle - something for everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t speak for London but Leeds at least has many excellent pubs serving excellent beers in excellent nick.  North won The Observer Food Monthly&#8217;s Best Place to Drink award a couple of years back and has a fantastic range of world beers in the bottle, European beers on draft, and always three local ales on hand pull.  Other luminaries of the drinking scene are Mr Foley&#8217;s, the Palace and the Victoria.  Granted, a lot of these pubs also serve Carling/Fosters/whatever - but they also make sure that the &#8216;real&#8217; stuff is looked after.</p>
<p>My personal favourite (at the moment!) - Arcadia, in Headingley.  No crap beer  at all and both German beers and real ales on draft, world beers in bottle - something for everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://www.interwined.com/2008/05/01/the-bad-beers-of-britain/#comment-4364</link>
		<author>Jacob</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 18:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hey Rob, thanks for clearing some of that stuff up...

Granted, I'm no expert in this field. We had some reservations about running the piece for that reason, but Sean said, 'let's see what happens...'

I guess my complaint still remains: why must I search for these places? 

Why can't all these brilliant pubs be located next door to my house?

Sadly, my local closed recently, and it is a blight on my street -- all boarded up and painted brown... but then it closed for reasons unrelated to beer selection. Turns out it was too rowdy and the landlord had simply had enough.

Perhaps a selection of lagers helps fuel uncivilised behaviour. But that is a whole other blog entry.

See you Tuesday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rob, thanks for clearing some of that stuff up&#8230;</p>
<p>Granted, I&#8217;m no expert in this field. We had some reservations about running the piece for that reason, but Sean said, &#8216;let&#8217;s see what happens&#8230;&#8217;</p>
<p>I guess my complaint still remains: why must I search for these places? </p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t all these brilliant pubs be located next door to my house?</p>
<p>Sadly, my local closed recently, and it is a blight on my street &#8212; all boarded up and painted brown&#8230; but then it closed for reasons unrelated to beer selection. Turns out it was too rowdy and the landlord had simply had enough.</p>
<p>Perhaps a selection of lagers helps fuel uncivilised behaviour. But that is a whole other blog entry.</p>
<p>See you Tuesday.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://www.interwined.com/2008/05/01/the-bad-beers-of-britain/#comment-4365</link>
		<author>Jacob</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 18:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Well, Alex, that's it, InterWined is moving to Leeds!

What you describe is exactly what I feel this town lacks... so the piece would probably be better titled: 'The Lousy Lagers of London.'

Right now, I have a bottle of Innis &#38; Gunn, as per Sean's advice, and find it truly outstanding. The nice vanilla hints are a surprise to me.

But the bottle seems too small.

Guess there's no pleasing some people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Alex, that&#8217;s it, InterWined is moving to Leeds!</p>
<p>What you describe is exactly what I feel this town lacks&#8230; so the piece would probably be better titled: &#8216;The Lousy Lagers of London.&#8217;</p>
<p>Right now, I have a bottle of Innis &amp; Gunn, as per Sean&#8217;s advice, and find it truly outstanding. The nice vanilla hints are a surprise to me.</p>
<p>But the bottle seems too small.</p>
<p>Guess there&#8217;s no pleasing some people.</p>
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		<title>By: jpg3123</title>
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		<author>jpg3123</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 21:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>In the States, the Northeast is certainly ahead of the curve when it comes to this. The trends will eventually trickle down. But, don't underestimate the power of "Bud" as they are getting into this game as well. They are, afterall, the number 1 seller in America.
Any time a local pub closes, it hurts the neighborhood and the local economy.
Hate to see that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the States, the Northeast is certainly ahead of the curve when it comes to this. The trends will eventually trickle down. But, don&#8217;t underestimate the power of &#8220;Bud&#8221; as they are getting into this game as well. They are, afterall, the number 1 seller in America.<br />
Any time a local pub closes, it hurts the neighborhood and the local economy.<br />
Hate to see that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.interwined.com/2008/05/01/the-bad-beers-of-britain/#comment-4368</link>
		<author>ryan</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 10:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I miss American beer! I miss British beer! I live in Spain, we have no beer worth drinking! So while I understand your lament, there are plenty of British beers that I would gladly trade my Iberian piss water for....Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I miss American beer! I miss British beer! I live in Spain, we have no beer worth drinking! So while I understand your lament, there are plenty of British beers that I would gladly trade my Iberian piss water for&#8230;.Cheers,</p>
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